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The Centralization Of NFTs - KYC & Withdrawals

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Published on 09 Jul 2022 / In Technology

I’ve noticed a growing trend that more NFT marketplaces are centralized, require KYC, and in multiple cases don’t even allow withdrawals. Let’s talk about a few examples in this growing problem for the NFT space.

Here’s some red flags to watch for: KYC required to trade NFTs, transactions aren’t on-chain, NFTs aren’t stored in your own wallet, withdrawal limitations and restrictions, and any other obstacles preventing you from trading or owning NFTs in a decentralized way.

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VeVe NFTs – You cannot withdraw currently as a normal user and when withdrawals are fully enabled, you still have to do a full KYC verification to withdraw, buy, and sell. For some test users, they can withdraw in the beta phase, but this is highly limited.

Moreover, because all of the NFTs are stored centrally on their application, just like exchanges, you do not have true ownership of your NFTs either. They will also have limitations on how much you can withdraw too making it even harder to get your funds out. It’s also important to note that there is a 10% fee to withdraw. https://help.veve.me/gems - You can learn more about this in their help center. Gems aren’t real crypto, they are just in app points from the app store. You can send them and anything you do with them is still regulated by Apple & Google through the app store.

The help app says you can only withdraw a minimum of 50 gems or a maximum of 50,000 every 7 days. You do need to trade enough that you have at least $50 worth or if you make a massive sale, you have to stagger your withdrawals. But according to a post by them very recently https://medium.com/veve-collectibles/veve-payout-what-you-need-to-know-c00529b28891 - you need a minimum of 1,000 Gems to even qualify for a payout and 100 Gems is the minimum withdrawal. So, you need $1000 worth and you have to withdraw at at least $100 worth. They may take up to 5 days to payout and they have to approve the payout as well.

Crypto.com NFTs: Crypto.com has the same issues with KYC on their marketplace eliminating the possibility of trading NFTs in a decentralized way. - https://crypto.com/nft/

Theta NFTs: Theta.TV still has all the same problems as before except now they allow you to withdraw your TFUEL to their NFT platform which you also need to KYC verify and cannot withdraw from. https://www.theta.tv/account/thetadrop-transfer - You can withdraw 400 TFUEL every 30 days which currently is worth about only $20.

After pressing transfer you are prompted with a warning that says you cannot withdraw.
https://www.thetadrop.com/ - This is their actual NFT platform, but you don’t want to use it since you cannot get your funds out.

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Stephan Kreutzer
Stephan Kreutzer 2 years ago

"Withdrawal": you're talking about migrating the NFTs to another exchange/wallet (then, don't tend NFTs be incompatible between chains, based on just hashing differently, or hashing the/different metadata differently?), or to withdraw money (in USD or cryptocurrency)? In any event, is the main point of NFTs monetary gains from speculation?

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Stephan Kreutzer
Stephan Kreutzer 2 years ago

Also, who knows (how is it guaranteed) that hashes are technically treated/handled unique with a protocol/chain/platform?

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Scott Cunningham
Scott Cunningham 2 years ago

No in the case of Theta and Veve it's that you literally cannot withdraw your funds. But it's also true you cannot transfer NFTs.

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Stephan Kreutzer
Stephan Kreutzer 2 years ago

@Scott Cunningham: Thanks for clarifying! I'm not much familiar with the particular services, so learning a few things from you! Wondering if these sites immediately swap deposits/gains to exchanges/wallets/currencies with which they can retain access, for reason of designed/intended to never have anybody withdraw anyway, so they can cash out if they abandon their "project"/business (essentially, being typical fraud/theft)?

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Stephan Kreutzer
Stephan Kreutzer 2 years ago

Regarding KYC: "decentralized" doesn't mean/imply anonymous. You're not saying KYC is centralized because it's provided by just one single identity/verification provider?

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Scott Cunningham
Scott Cunningham 2 years ago

I know that. But it's against the ethos of decentralization to track everyone and prevent anonymity. Hence why any decentralized exchange doesn't require KYC.

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Stephan Kreutzer
Stephan Kreutzer 2 years ago

@Scott Cunningham: I think, in general, identification/de-anonymization currently doesn't need to be that much of a requirement, because for anti-money-laundering purposes/legislation, there's still enough of a conversion if physical stuff is bought with such money (as the main goal of the laundering, to "cash out" and realize/materialize tangible value) or if it enters regular bank accounts. If it remains virtual, there's not that much of great services or immaterial "goods" that are of safe, tangible value, so as long as crypto-currency changes hands/accounts, no need to de-anonymize/identify for anti-money-laundering. Guess money that's in the system gets spent, burnt, lost, gambled, on stupid or useless stuff, and some of the money to be laundered (here bouncing around all digitally, not easily exiting to physical value) is from online casinos, put in as hard cash by gambling addicts, etc. So if that money ends up stuck/lost/burned with some providers, wallets, NFT "investments", it's not much "real" anyway and just a bunch of numbers transferred back and forth between wallets (some of which purely artificially created/minted, others at the loss of whomever converted hard currency into crypto-currency - at insertion/exit, there's probably an identifyable natural person around who's doing it, identifyable by those who provide the hard cash on exit/withdrawal).

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